Zunächst einmal etwas Kontext. Vivaqua haben Zutritt zum hinteren Teil des Gartens jedes Hauses auf unserer Straßenseite, da ihre Rohre unter diesem Teil des Gartens verlaufen. Es ist niemandem gestattet, in diesem Teil des Gartens irgendwelche Bauten anzubringen (Schuppen, Klettergerüste für Kinder usw.).
Darüber hinaus installieren und verwalten sie den Zugang zu den Gärten über sichere Tore, zu denen nur sie einen Schlüssel haben. Das ist alles in Ordnung und steht im Acte de Propriété. Damit hatten wir noch nie ein Problem.
Diese Woche schickten sie jedoch einen Brief an jedes Haus, in dem sie darauf drängten, alle ihre Hecken auf zwei Meter zu kürzen. Ich glaube, dass dies eine Regel ist, die die Kommune durchsetzen soll (obwohl sie dies NIE getan hat), obwohl ich auf der Website der Kommune nichts darüber finden kann
Ich zögere aus mehreren Gründen, dies zu tun.
- Es ist teuer (ca. 1500 EUR)
- Es würde die Privatsphäre einschränken. Die Nachbarn im hinteren Bereich hätten eine direkte Sichtverbindung zum Hauptschlafzimmer und zum Wohnzimmer
Hat Vivaqua die Rechte oder eine Rechtsgrundlage, dies zu beantragen? Ein Gärtner hat uns bereits gesagt, dass die Höhe der Hecke nichts mit der Tiefe der Wurzeln zu tun hat, daran kann es also auch nicht liegen.
Ich bin versucht, mit Vivaqua zu argumentieren, dass sie es verdammt noch mal kostenlos selbst tun können, wenn sie wollen, dass die verdammten Dinge abgeschnitten werden!
Bild vom Garten – Vivaqua kann über Tore auf der linken und rechten Seite des Gartens auf den Teil zwischen der roten Linie und der hinteren Hecke zugreifen. Das Trampolin ist erlaubt, da es sich nicht um eine feste Konstruktion handelt
Vivaqua have asked all houses on our street to cut hedges down to 2 meters. Can they?
byu/ginolard inbelgium
Von ginolard
18 Kommentare
Ignore them.
I don’t know about your commune, but where I live there is a mandated height limit for hedges of 2m. If yours is the same, then yes, they can demand it. And if they have to do it for you, they will send you a bill for the work.
Why don’t you ask them what their basis is?
If there is a maximum height in the plan de lotissement or in the ppas, you’ll need to comply at your expenses.
Usually there are reasons for the rules (safety rules, urbanistic rules, etc. etc.), try to understand the one affecting your garden, maybe you’ll agree with it.
For the vis-a-vis… A quick trip to ikea, some venetian blinds and the thrill of sitting well behind in the room, with a broken leg and some binoculars…
>Additionally, they install and manage access to the gardens via secure gates that only they have a key to. This is all fine and is written in the the acte de propriété.
can you explain this? do Vivaqua own the houses? is it social housing?
I’d like to understand why Vivaqua – and only them – can access those gates into your gardens. that does not seem legal, unless they own the places.
Dude how many hectares are you on that it’s €1500 to get your hedge clipped? €10/m is already pricey.
In any case a 2m max height isn’t specific to your commune, it’s all of Flanders.
I’d be surprised if you were legally obligated to do as they say **unless** the hedges interfere with their access to their installations
As to communes enforcing this kind of meaningless rules, it basically depends whether there is a stubborn prick living nearby and drowning them in complaints in which case they either review the rule or actually make people fix whatever needs fixing
They can certainly ask just as I can ask you for a trillion dollars. Are you obligated to obey? That’s another matter. in your case there’s usually loosely phrased legislation such „has to take reasonable measures to allow access“. What „reasonable“ means in this case is always up for debate. That’s what you need to figure out!
Long shot maybe, but: the taller the plant, the more root growth. Perhaps they’re worried those roots might damage their pipes?
Commune should be the one to enforce.
However, you ( in this case Vivaqua) can take it to court. (Justice de Paix)
Otherwise you could have a rule that your neighbour is breaking and if he is best buddies with the major he can ignore it and you would have no means of enforcing it.
The question than becomes, will a judge just look at the law or also ask Vivaqua to prove how it’s impacting them. That I do not know
Edit for clarity
You’re in for some construction work in your yard. They probably need access for the machines to dig and change the pipeline.
If it is not allowed to have any sort of construction, is it really allowed to have trees, or high hedges?
How far from the plot boundary is your hedge?
There´s also federal law in the subject.
Nieuw Burgerlijk Wetboek (artikel 3.133 en 3.134)[Nieuw Burgerlijk Wetboek (artikel 3.133 en 3.134)](https://legalnews.be/bouw-vastgoed/nieuwe-afstandsregels-beplantingen-en-snoeiing-van-overhangende-takken-doorstaan-grondwettelijke-toetsing-aternio/).
And maybe Vivaque does have the right to demand what they´re demanding. Just ask them for their justification.
OP updated with pic of garden for some clearer explanation
From another jurisdiction, but anyone can „enforce“ the existing law/regulations on you by reporting you to the proper authorities.
The general rule is that a hedge along the street is maximum 2m high. (Unless you have a specific ruling for your lot or by the municipality).
Usually it’s not really enforced, but if anyone (neighbour, city, company…) complains about it or asks for it to be trimmed, you have to trim it.
Yeah, no. Vivaqua can’t enforce shit here. Most of the time, there’s a clause ’non-aedificando‘ on the servitude, but they own the underground. Therefore, they aren’t propriétaires of nay neighboring parcels.
Yes, the VeldWetboek or more recently the Nieuw Burgerlijk Wetboek states a max height of 2 meters for hedges within a 2m limit from the parcel limit or the rooilijn (limit with the public domain), but only the owner of the parcel or the commune can really claim it. Neither can enforce it, by the way – not unilaterally. For the neighbor – he has to go through the justice de paix, the commune can enforce it via their GAS/SAC (sanction administrative). Vivaqua though, jack shit. But I’ve worked with them for many years now, and they overstep their bounds quite often. I mostly tell them to fuck off, but on the other hand I’m a department chief at a community/gemeente. So I wouldn’t advise to tell them to fuck of. Just do whatever. You won’t get fined. Worst case, they go through with it at justice de paix. I’d rather doubt it. A lot of the time, it’s one of their cantonniers who goes on a solo crusade.
Lil edit: when in doubt, service urbanisme/grondgebiedszaken in your commune.
Google :
https://navigator.emis.vito.be/detail?woId=14381
Took less than 2 seconds to find.