Wenn man sich die Raucherquoten im Moment anschaut, ist die Schweiz nicht viel schlechter als die Nachbarländer. Aber wenn man hinschaut jung Leute, dann hinkt die Schweiz hinterher.
Ich bin halb Schweizer, halb Neuseeländer und der Unterschied ist verrückt! In Neuseeland sind es für junge Menschen nur noch 3,2 %. Ich werde nicht so tun, als wüsste ich genau, wie das passiert ist, aber ein klarer Grund ist, dass die Regierung das Rauchen unglaublich teuer gemacht hat. Eine Schachtel Zigaretten kostet in Neuseeland etwa doppelt so viel wie in der Schweiz.
Offensichtlich macht die Regierung hier etwas falsch. Dass Rauchen Krebs verursacht, wussten wir bereits in den 1960er Jahren. Jetzt sind mehr als 60 Jahre vergangen und die Schweiz (und ich würde sagen der größte Teil Europas) hat immer noch nicht viel dagegen unternommen. Aber einige Maßnahmen funktionieren eindeutig, und indem die Regierung sie nicht umsetzt, stellt sie sicher, dass künftige Generationen weiterhin daran sterben werden.
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eigeverantwortig und so!!++11+11++1111!!
Helping others is great but you can only do so much before impeding on others personal choices and freedoms. We’ve seen what prohibition has done in the past. People have more knowledge and medical reports than ever before, but most people choose to just live it and learn it.
Thanks Philip Morris… 😉
Does this include vaping?
Well duh we smoke because we want cancer!
I don’t wanna live that long in that shitty world and I don’t want to actively kill myself so a decrease of lifespan is a pretty good deal.
imagine the health system not having to care about the late effects of smoking and all the lung transplants, COPD and other BS that people do to themselves and the industry hurting the people with
Hungary for the win.
Naja 4 Jahr alti zahle
I would be in favor of higher insurance premiums rather than more expensive cigarettes.
Die Menschen, die auf eigenverantwortung appellieren, die sollen dann auch bitte den doppelten krankenkassenbeitrag bezahlen um ihre wörter und werte zu bestätigen.
I got 2 people off nicotine addiction, still sad to see other get anxious, angry after 30 minutes of withdrawl.
Also I work for a company that sells cigaretts and you can now order online
I’m sure the fact that we’re one of the most conservative, if not the most conservative, countries on this map has nothing to do with it because conservatives never kow-tow to corporate lobbyists, let’s not jump to conclusions here.
Having said that, though, I honestly have a couple of issues with this. It doesn’t tell me how much the people in question smoke – is it a pack a day or occasionally when they’re out with friends? The amount people smoke would tell us a lot more about the public health impact. I’d also like to know if this includes vaping or if it’s just cigarettes because if it doesn’t include vaping, these numbers tell us nothing.
And finally, in my experience, the larger problem particularly with the younger generation is actually nicotine pouches AKA Snus, which are very widespread at the moment and insanely addictive. I honestly get the impression nobody’s talking about them, and the kids have no idea what they’re doing to themselves with these fucking things.
Pillar 2 and Pillar 3a is not enough to live a longer life.
How everybody are ignoring people smoking on train stations and people smoking next to little kids was my biggest culture shock after moving here
The price for cigarettes has actually already been raised significantly. Just FYI.
Tax ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️
mogging the French
It‘s a private decision, as long as no one is affected
Welcome to switzerlands tobacco lobby
Why?
People seem quite happy they can smoke freely.
# Zückt eure Glimmstängel, die Ungarn holen wir auch noch ein!
Home of Philip morris what a surprise
Actually wild how long our life expectancy is with all the smoking
As a non smoker, even I was tempted because Swiss cigarettes smells good
My observation is that public health initiatives are lacking in CH. Routine physical exams to catch serious disease early, nope, not covered, we’ll treat it later when it’s terminal. Public health campaigns to demonize smoking and reduce smoking rates, nope. Suggest the yearly flu vaccine for heard immunity, prevent lost man hours and unnecessary GP visits, nope. Complain about rising health insurance costs and being clueless about the causes … ding-ding-ding!
Yeah, it sucks. I can’t even waiting for the train or bus without inhaling that crap. Also terrible for the environment and people throwing their used cigarettes in the street. Just a disgusting habit that has got to go.
No. String disagree. It is not a government’s job to manage, teach and nag people into certain behaviours by making things „incredibly expensive“, in no scenario. Banning smoking indoors in public places? Sure. Ban dangerous drugs? Certainly. Everything beyond that is not the government’s job.
And a drinking problem…
We have outsmoked the French! Success!
To be fair why did they cut off turkiye?
the paying part goes for pretty much anything, no? i dont drive a car, i still pay for roads, i dont need any goverment assistance, i still pay for it. maybe we need to abolish universal healthcare then? i do sports regularly, should you pay more if you dont?
Make it expensive and let the tax revenue be bigger than associated health costs. But each to their own. If you want to smoke, you should be able to smoke.
And they’re all on the train platforms, huffing away on what smells like either goat dung, weed or bubblegum
Data for whole population (normally 15+), regularly places Switzerland in middle of European table. Meanwhile life expectancy is regularly highest in Europe and top 5 globally.
I’m a non-smoker and cannot stand it, I particularly hate when someone blows a sugary vape cloud in my direction. However I’m also happy to live in a country that allows people to make their own choices.
For all the people saying that people who smoke should pay more in health insurance, that’s simply not possible. How would you know if someone smokes in private or not, and how would the rules be? Would occasionally a cigarette every few weeks/months with friends count? Would it be more expensive if someone goes through a full package a day than someone who smokes a cigarette a day or every two days? How would it be if someone stops smoking? And you can’t really force people to get tested if they smoke or not, also a test from the doctors would fall into confidentiality rights, if you can even get specifically tested for smoking (im not sure if you can, but if thats possible. Every single citizen apart from the underage would have to get tested every year since you can’t start smoking at any time). And if that rule would apply the people would have to vote for it first, since the government can’t force a test on everyone just because. I don’t think majority of the people would want to go through that every year just to get told okay you don’t smoke, you don’t have to pay more for smoking but health insurance will get more expensive anyway. So the point with increasing health insurance for smokers just doesn’t make sense, by saying that you would also have to increase it for people who drink, are obese or do extreme sports. And that would go against what our health insurance policy is right now.
(I apologize for my english grammar if I made mistakes)
I wonder if this could have to do with the apprenticeship system.
I just quit smoking on January first ! Been smoking for 15 years and never wanted to quit until now.
Easy to say but I can say HOW MANY people smoke in cities like Geneva.
It’s crazy. It stinks everywhere as well and I fucking hate it.
But our govt likes to suck up to companies such as Morris etc. After seeing Parmelin deep up Trumps butt nothing surprises me anymore tbh.
Money above all else is the unwritten article 0 of our constitution right before the preamble. Ain’t gonna change anytime soon.
A few young men smoke in the doorway of our office building very often although there is a kita on the ground floor. I complained to the landlord and wait for the news.