Chinesische Elektrofahrzeuge kommen nach Kanada. Sollten sie also auch hier gebaut werden?

https://www.thestar.com/business/opinion/chinese-evs-are-coming-to-canada-so-should-they-be-built-here-too/article_26968ef7-a823-4841-a24a-b92b1f550f77.html

14 Kommentare

  1. KeyIntelligent9702 on

    China won’t build car plants in Canada unless they know we buy their cars. Importing a small number first to test the market is the logical way to go. Ford’s call to not buy them is stupid and contrary to Ontario’s long term interest. Doug, don’t forget: “Nostalgia is not a strategy “.

  2. PineBNorth85 on

    From what I’ve read a lot of their auto sector is automated so making them here wouldn’t help a whole lot with jobs.

  3. They probably won’t any time soon, but them being built here by Canadians would alleviate most of the issues folks have with this right now.

  4. Philipofish on

    Canada should ask for 51% owned joint ventures like how China did it with Chevy.

    There are plenty of Chinese car manufacturers that would love the ability to go international even with those terms.

  5. Import them, if after a few years, people are happy with the price and quality of the product then they will sell well. Then we can look at manufacturing them here. We, sometimes unfairly, equate Chinese manufacturing to trash products. But I’m assuming (hoping?) these cars won’t be Temu quality bullshit.

    I remember back in the 70’s when everyone was losing their minds about Honda and Toyota and how they were going to put Chev and Ford out of business and eliminate North American jobs. They are built factories here and are all getting along fine. I’m just hoping these Chinese EVs will be a success and run Elon right out of business.

  6. YES BUT to be fair are we also going to adopt China’s policies?

    Their Data Security Law (DSL) and Cybersecurity Law compels the transfer of sensitive data, including IP, trade secrets, and user data to the government.

    Lets all get along and share

  7. I assume that the vast majority of Chinese EVs bought in Canada would still be the cheaper Chinese exported/heavily subsisted by the Chinese government ones, but BYD investment and construction of EVs in Canada would help soften the blow somewhat for Canadian auto workers without wasting more money on protectionist policies etc.

  8. The BYD factory is the size of a city with massive vertical integration and a high degree of automation. People have a very naive belief about why Chinese EV’s are cheap and rely on stupid comforting platitudes (ex “they’re all made with slave labour!”) because the reality is too scary to comprehend. Their advanced factories are moving towards “dark factories” where robots can operate without light bulbs because they don’t need human supervision- they’re more productive than us at building cars, it’s not just a cheap wage thing.

    Should we onshore modern vehicle manufacturing? Sure, but if we adopt their highly productive system wholesale, it’s not going to be an assembly line of middle class workers. Instead of a network of suppliers feeding parts to the car factory, it will be closer to a monopoly with all parts built by BYD close to a robotic assembly line.

  9. As much as I’d like to see it, I don’t see a benefit for the Chinese manufacturers as long as the US still blocks Chinese vehicles from import. A decently sized factory can output 100 000-200 000 cars per year and Canadians only buy about 2 million new vehicles per year, so either 5-10% of Canadian sales will need to be of the model built at whatever factory whichever Chinese manufacturer decides to enter the market, or else some of the cars will have to be exported overseas into the European or Asian markets where most Chinese manufacturers already have domestic factories, adding an unnecessary shipping cost to the vehicles.

  10. howismyspelling on

    Crazy times where the big 3 have been leaving our soil for decades because Canadians cost too much to employ, and since then foreign cars have been setting up shop in Canada because it’s an excellent investment.

    Maybe it’s not a government made issue, but a capitalist made one 🤔

  11. plutoptimil on

    I can’t see the economics ever working. 90% of the vehicles made in Canada are exported to the US market. If the US continues to not allow Chinese made EV imports, which I fully expect them to do there is just not enough of a market in Canada to justify building a factory. Now if Canada banned all American vehicle imports (which we will never do) and a Chinese EV company produces a single model of Canada Car and a single model of Canada Truck and that is all we are allowed to buy it could work. That will not happen.

    Of the ~2million vehicles sold in Canada every year only 150,000-200,000 are actually made in Canada. Factories produce vehicles by the millions not the 100’s of thousands. It just doesn’t add up.

  12. CletusCanuck on

    BYD’s opened plants in Hungary and Brazil. So they’re not averse to building them domestically. Offer a low tariff rate for final assembly in Canada, reduce to 0% if cars contain a sufficient percentage of Canadian-sourced parts.

  13. blessedkarl on

    One question for anyone who works in logistics and might know the answer: I’ve been thinking about whether growing penetration of Chinese cars into the Canadian market (and ideally having them built here) would change where the car industry is based in the country. it’d take awhile to build a local supply network of most/all of the parts for a BYD car in Ontario wouldn’t it? at least until the domestic supply chain is up it seems like the easiest place for a plant to be placed is in BC because you can also get things from china to BC more easily than from China to Ontario.

  14. Mysterious_Error9619 on

    Mercedes, bmw, and Nissan all have no direct or indirect manufacturing here.
    Canadians are so fickle and arrogant about who exactly we are and our standing in the economic world. More importantly our American type arrogance of using “Chinese vehicles should only be allowed to be sold here if they create manufacturing jobs here, but German and Japanese vehicles are ok to be sold without manufacturing here”.

    These Chinese vehicles should be sold here because it gives Canadians access to much better technology vehicles at cheaper prices than any of the lame American or expensive German/Japanese/korean vehicles.

    Canadians need to stop believing they have some sort of bargaining chip for large scale manufacturing. The only one we’ve had in the last 30 years was a better exchange rate and cheaper corresponding labour.

    But we do have lots to offer in other industries and we need to focus on those.

    As carney so eloquently said…nostalgia is not a strategy.

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