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    Kreml nach Gesprächen mit den USA: Der Krieg kann nicht enden, ohne dass die Ukraine den Donbass aufgibt


    Kreml nach Gesprächen mit den USA: Der Krieg kann nicht enden, ohne dass die Ukraine den Donbass aufgibt

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/01/23/8017492/

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    6. Winter_Criticism_236 on

      Well if you ever want Crimea to be a Russian military port you may have to give up the entire Donbas.. or expect every Russian ship to be sunk forever.

    7. Przytulator on

      I have a better plan: Russia can fuck off out of Ukraine, and the war will be over in no time.

    8. Repave2348 on

      The war could end tomorrow if Russia stopped invading.

      But why would they, when the USA is putting so much pressure on Ukraine to give up land. Absolutely zero chance the Russians are going to give up this golden opportunity gifted to them by 77 million Americans.

    10. W31337 on

      Well maybe Ukraine should up their target to more than 50000 Russians a month.

    11. warzonexx on

      Here’s an idea. Ukraine gives up Donbas, Russia gives up Moscow

      Fair deal no?

    12. Feature_best99 on

      So basically, the Kremlin is saying “we can’t stop killing people until we get what we want.” That’s… not exactly a negotiation, it’s just blackmail disguised as diplomacy.

    13. WesternBlueRanger on

      Russia is going to get absolutely wrecked over the next few years unless they figure out an exit strategy quickly.

      Dictators like Putin double down on bad decisions because they don’t like hearing bad news or someone presenting different information; they are in effect, surrounded by yes-men. Over time, their personal interests become intertwined with national interests, so what’s best for Putin becomes what best for the Russian state, even if it is detrimental to Russia’s long term interests.

      Putin’s desire for more territory is going to be a massive drain on Russia’s resources; when they marched into Crimea, sure, Crimea was a political boost to Putin, but it was an economic disaster for Russia. There wasn’t much in Crimea to begin with, and it has become an economic drain for Russia as they now have to build infrastructure to support their presence, and with the war on, it has become a further drain on resources as Russia now has to defend it from attack.

      Any additional territory he manages to take is going to be yet more of a drain on Russia’s resources because he has bombed those areas flat, rendering them unusable for decades to come and Russia will be a pariah state for generations to come.

      Furthermore, Russia has created a situation where ignoring border treaties becomes the norm, especially if you can claim some sort of historical tie to said territory; Putin has forgotten that China has claim to vast territories taken by the Tsars, especially Siberia, which are resource rich. **And the Chinese have a history of holding grudges over this sort of stuff.**

      It is very likely that whilst Putin is busy dumping his military arsenal on Ukraine and weakening the Russian economy, there will be a point where Russia becomes weak enough that the Chinese will take advantage at the absolute worst possible time to make a land grab on Russia, and the Russians will be too distracted and too weakened to resist. So what turns out from being a disaster in Ukraine becomes an existential crisis for Russia because large chunks of Russian territory are going to get gobbled up by China by force. And Putin is going to end up finding out first hand what happens when Russia blows its resources on a war with a non-threat and has nothing to fight a war with an actual threat, much like the last Tsar of Russia found out.

    14. BlueInfinity2021 on

      They want the fortress belt so that when they rebuild their military and invade again they will be able to take more land easily.

      They’re taking the Trump administration for fools who either don’t understand or don’t care why this demand should not be entertained and would be devastating for Ukraine’s defenses.

      To be fair though the Russians aren’t wrong, Trump’s officials negotiating with Russia are inexperienced and clueless (except for Rubio).

    16. FlygandeSjuk on

      Steve Witkoff must be the worst negotiator of all time. What are the results? Nothing. He goes to Russia, hears their demands and goes, ‚Well, this is what the Russians want and if they don’t get it we will have no results, so now it’s all up to Ukraine.‘

    17. Puzzleheaded-Car3562 on

      Never reward aggression. Never. Like a blackmailer, what you give will never be the end of it. Never. Would you *pay* someone to stop kicking you?

    19. The_Frostweaver on

      The whole Russia peace negotiations are a scam. A psy op to try and get Trump on their side.

      Russia is not interested in a just peace.

      They want Ukraine to surrender.

      And appeasement doesn’t work.

      It will only embolden Putin, Xi and other bad actors to start more wars of aggression in the future.

      Appeasement is what started WW2.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement

    21. Comfortable-Sky7801 on

      Ah yes just give me all of your most fortified positions without a fight, trust me bro.

    24. Impossible-Bed3728 on

      Kremlin: ‚War cannot end without Ukraine giving up Donbas.. Crimea.. Kiev.. and the rest of Ukraine. Oh, it cannot end until Latvia, Estonia, Poland and half of Germany are given up as well. Sorry we dont make the rules.‘

    26. MagosFarnsworth on

      Sovjet negotiation strategy hasn’t changed in a century: Always demand the impossible, never back down, eventually you will be appeased with more than you would have gotten if you had negotiated a compromise. 
       

    27. Shadowlance23 on

      Does America even have much authority to negotiate here? They’ve significantly cut military aid, though not entirely, but with local military production increasing, Europe slowly picking up the slack, and the US’s decreasing involvement, there’s not much America can do if Ukraine doesn’t accept whatever trash comes out of the administration.

    29. KSaburof on

      Lol, Ukraine giving up Donbas means a new war after a pause (may be kremlin will wait for trump to leave the post) 🙂 Kremlin is lying about end 🤷‍♂️ imho

    30. 1-randomonium on

      It seems Russia has made the kind of concessions that would really apppeal to Trump and his money men, like control over and profits from frozen Russian assets. They also seem to have resigned themselves to accepting some security guarantees and US/European prescence in post-war Ukraine.

      I still believe that we’ll see an end to this war later this year. Between the constant drone strikes on Russian refineries, allies seizing shadow fleet tankers, China calling in their debts and the liquidation of their gold reserves to pay for spending, Putin’s cabinet probably understand that they can’t hold out much longer before they lose much of the power and leverage they still have.

    31. pastabologna on

      The world seems to forget how Russia shifted Georgia’s borders overnight in 2008. They’ll do the exact same if Ukraine folds. Russia is a scourge that needs to be maintained with a whip and chair, instead of giving in to demands.

    32. wiztard on

      Sure it can. It will end once Russian economy collapses even further and the colonized parts rise up and break away.

    35. Winter_Criticism_236 on

      USA should offer part of Alaska back to Russia if they truly believe it’s a fair offer..

    36. backcountry57 on

      Russia’s board of peace declaration of using frozen assets to rebuild Ukraine makes sense now. Those funds will be used only in occupied areas.

    37. BlackTiger03 on

      The only deal that makes sense: invaders returning to their own nation, where they can spend their time and energy fixing their potholes instead of destroying cities of another nation.

    38. Winter_Criticism_236 on

      The day is coming when Ukraine missile/drone tech will have Russia begging for peace…

    39. Nayauru on

      So much for “the Trump plan looks promising” and “we are very optimistic about the peace talks with President Trump”. 🫩

      Unless Zelenskyy is actually fine with giving up Donbas, then I guess he’s right to be happy?

    40. NuclearGettoScientis on

      Russia has been on the offensive for two years now; it wouldn’t make sense for them to accept a proposal that would cause them to lose the territory they’ve conquered (since they’re advancing, not retreating). Personally, if I were Ukrainian, I might accept the loss of territory in exchange for joining NATO and the EU. But if the proposal is „Give up the territories and become neutral,“ then it makes no sense, since nothing would stop Russia from trying again in a couple of years.

    42. RisingPhil on

      They will be in for a major surprise this year. All signs point to Ukraine being able to recapture territory.

    44. rapax on

      That claim is factually incorrect. The war absolutely can end without Ukraine giving up Donbas. Russia may not want it to, but it definitely can.

    46. cougarlt on

      Of course it can. ruZZia just needs to pull out its military from the whole of Ukraine, the war ends directly.

    47. Fire69 on

      Didn’t Putin do his ‚military exercise‘ because he wanted to get rid of the Nazis in Ukraine? Are they all hiding in the Donbas region?

    48. LaSage on

      An easier way to end the war is for the people of Russia to show Putin the view from the basement.

    49. robreddity on

      Here’s the thing: sure it can. What if you were to just stfu and withdraw from Ukraine?

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