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27 Kommentare
Personally, I would prefer to have something which works without energy and internet to avoid a situation like “I can’t show you the document because my internet provider uses O2 network and the application waits for updates.”
Hopefully the trial fails and shows no one wants or needs digital ID.
„Digital Driving license is now live, we will be expanding it to non-drivers as well, and then we will make it mandatory for working and living in the UK“
Questions of whether we need it aside, why can’t it just be in Google Wallet or Apple Wallet? Why do I need another app for it?
>When the digital wallet and driving licence were announced, private sector digital identity providers raised concerns that the app would compete directly with their offerings, especially around age-verification services. Subsequent meetings with government ministers helped to allay those concerns, and GDS has confirmed that the digital driving licence will be opened up to approved third-party digital ID apps as a means of identity verification.
I’m against digital ID for multiple reasons. But this little quote is just class.
They’re going to hamstring a government service and purposely make it less useful than it could be, just so that a few middlemen won’t go out of business.
GG.
This is so much better than the compulsory digital ID. Fully optional and very convenient as my physical driving license is the only reason I still have to carry a wallet with me. As someone who gets IDd at pubs and clubs it would mean neither me or my friends would have to worry about forgetting ID. I’m not sure why people here are against it as it is optional and will not replace physical driving licenses. Many countries (including states in the US) have carried it out successfully.
How much do we have to pay for it and how often do we need to renew it?
We have this in Norway, but can also get a physical one.
Both Google and Apple wallets support digital IDs but they’ve decided to go off and create a separate app for it. Both wallets store the ID locally and encrypted.
I know who’s devs I trust more to create a seamless, secure and easy to use UX. IIRC this app shares data with Experian for fraud checks. But who knows what agreements they could sign up to in future.
Just add the damn thing to the phones wallet and let me show that the vanishingly few times I ever get asked for ID now
We have these in Denmark, we also have a digital version of our national health cards, but the introduction have been without any issues.
Can’t tell you much more, I stick to my physical copy. I don’t think it should be battery operated.
Huh. Will they fix the DVLA online portal first then?
What will be interesting is their use for proving you’re over 18 in bars and pubs. Standard practice is to refuse anything on a phone as they can be doctored, I’m going to be flummoxed if someone tells me it’s their official driving licence app
This government are really keen on wasting money on things we don’t need.
Looking forward to this, personally far prefer everything on my phone that having physical things
Fine by me. There’s a growing number of people like me that hardly take their wallets out with them anymore.
There it is in the title, licence with a c. Countless comments spelling it the American way though!
this already exists. the post office app has verified passport and driving license options
In Greece they give you a plastic card and a digital equivelant. Makes sense
Yes, this is precisely what we need. Not a new digital ID.
There is literally nothing wrong with the photocard.
Sometimes I get the feeling that UK gov just has to do something for the sake of it. I don’t even think it’s malicious, it’s just like a kind of job justification thing, we can’t just have something that works and leave it alone because someone’s job is to come up with new things.
The last time I went on holiday with a mate they had issues on return because the digital system to verify residency was broken and we were starting to become stressed about missing the flight. The previous system of having a card was fine, the government is checking it on the other end on entry anyway.
Yes, right now they might say – oh it’s a trial, we are not getting rid of the photocard. Of course they will say that, but then in N years time it will be – ah yeah, it costs a lot to send things now because we privatised the postal service, and we contract making the cards and that’s expensive, and anyway we already have the digital system so it’ll save money, and there you are, the photocard is gone not via some malicious act but just via slow creep.
Yes, kids can buy 0% carlsberg, no, it’s not a problem. Yes, some teacher did some crime, it will probably happen again incredibly rarely, no, we don’t need CCTV in every classroom. Yeah, someone got run over at 30mph, someone will get run over at 20mph and at 10, in fact people sometimes walk into each other, we don’t need to continually ratchet speed limits down forever. Etc.
I do feel a bit „old man shouts at clouds“ but it’s like, come on, the world worked before, we don’t need more rules. The issues that the vast majority of people face are solved by enforcing the existing rules properly… or in some places even removing rules that just make everything harder and more annoying for the sake of some trivial edge case that 99% of people are unaffected by.
I’ve little to no interest in a digital driving license, thanks!!
Great, let’s give foreign actors the power to completely nullify an election by sabotaging a phone network! Really thinking outside the box on this one aren’t we. Christ I love the clever cookies in Westminster and their 4D chess skills /s
This is one that I’m actually fine with. It’s rare that I get ID’d at my age (I still did a few years ago at 40) but I still cart it around in the vain hope / umbrella effect, and this would be one less reason to even have a wallet most days. I don’t mind that being digital since it doesn’t have the same likelihood of insidious expansion to “use this whenever you want to participate in society” that the digital ID idea had. A driving license is purely a) a driving license duh and b) an *existing* proof of ID as a *secondary* feature
For purpose A it only really needs to be seen if a police officer asks to and can be done later down the station if there’s an issue with the phone.
If I was travelling somewhere I’d bring the physical one as backup documentation.
*maybe* it’s just a way of sliding in the digital ID thing via the backdoor but it doesn’t have the same vibe to it to me. I’d also be okay with it as an optional way to do age verification online if it’s properly thought out and has some privacy to it (follow one of the European models) as I’d prefer that to handing a picture of the license to an American third party company. However the likelihood of it having privacy built in with the Labour government is sadly unlikely.
Seems people are determined to find fault with everything the government does.
Having spent two hours on the phone to the incredibly useless ’support‘ team at the [gov.uk](http://gov.uk) one login team, I’m pretty sure this is going to be a colossal and unnecessary pain in the arse
One day the Internet will just cease to function… the streets will be like the purge.
I would hope there a backup plan for failures to even if it’s a offline version or something that has the most basic info there for example.