This is why the EU no response is so scary to me. If they aren’t willing to respond to defend their own territory what happens when he comes for us? We aren’t able to fend off America solo and need our allies. It really feels like we’re going to be on our own.
RNTMA on
Do you really need an expert to say this? It’s basic common sense. If Greenland falls, it’s basically over for Canada, and likely most of the world.
Ultimately, the only way this will actually be solved is if enough people in the US finally admit that this is ridiculous, but it’s frightening how that does not appear to be happening. And 30% of the population will even cheer this on.
cambeiu on
Pretty obvious, but maybe I can give some more context.
At the end of WW2, in order to contain the existential threat represented by the USSR, the US put together a narrative of „an alliance of equals“ amongst the liberal Western democracies. NATO, the IMF, World Bank, etc… were put in place and that alliance stood against Communist expansion coming from the East.
30 years after the collapse of the USSR, the current powers that be in the US decided that this narrative no longer had a purpose or served a function. Russia is an adversary, but it is definitely not an existential threat. If anything, Russia is quite ideologically aligned with the current administration. The only conflict is about spheres of influences. So since the old narrative no longer serves a purpose, it was past the time to scuttle it. There is no more „alliance of equals“, even on rhetoric. The administration views Europe as old, militarily weak, poor and technologically lagging, so it was time to put it in its place. It is back to „the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must“. At the same time it claims for itself the entirety of the Western hemisphere, which includes Canada.
On the other hand the Western European countries, used to being the global historical protagonists since the 15th century, were caught completely flat footed by this drastic change of narrative. They now face the grim reality that they are relegated as mostly passive bystanders as the ruling global powers carve out the world in a new order of sphere of influences. Canada, although not having a history of global protagonism, faces the same prognostic as Western Europe.
It is the last nail on the coffin of Fukuyama’s „the end of History“. Turns out that liberal western democracies were not the definitive victors of the global struggle and history rolls on inexorably.
CalmFig4901 on
US is backing down from saying military force is an option they are trying to pressure a financial purchase of Greenland. Another party accepting money would imply consent and legitimacy but obviously this would be opposite to the terms of NATO membership so it’s not feasible. Dumb American thinks if he wants something it has a price and can b bought
Shoddy_Operation_742 on
If it comes to a referendum and the US offers $150k USD to ea ch Canadian…I think many Canadians who are living paycheque to paycheque would jump onboard.
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This is why the EU no response is so scary to me. If they aren’t willing to respond to defend their own territory what happens when he comes for us? We aren’t able to fend off America solo and need our allies. It really feels like we’re going to be on our own.
Do you really need an expert to say this? It’s basic common sense. If Greenland falls, it’s basically over for Canada, and likely most of the world.
Ultimately, the only way this will actually be solved is if enough people in the US finally admit that this is ridiculous, but it’s frightening how that does not appear to be happening. And 30% of the population will even cheer this on.
Pretty obvious, but maybe I can give some more context.
At the end of WW2, in order to contain the existential threat represented by the USSR, the US put together a narrative of „an alliance of equals“ amongst the liberal Western democracies. NATO, the IMF, World Bank, etc… were put in place and that alliance stood against Communist expansion coming from the East.
30 years after the collapse of the USSR, the current powers that be in the US decided that this narrative no longer had a purpose or served a function. Russia is an adversary, but it is definitely not an existential threat. If anything, Russia is quite ideologically aligned with the current administration. The only conflict is about spheres of influences. So since the old narrative no longer serves a purpose, it was past the time to scuttle it. There is no more „alliance of equals“, even on rhetoric. The administration views Europe as old, militarily weak, poor and technologically lagging, so it was time to put it in its place. It is back to „the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must“. At the same time it claims for itself the entirety of the Western hemisphere, which includes Canada.
On the other hand the Western European countries, used to being the global historical protagonists since the 15th century, were caught completely flat footed by this drastic change of narrative. They now face the grim reality that they are relegated as mostly passive bystanders as the ruling global powers carve out the world in a new order of sphere of influences. Canada, although not having a history of global protagonism, faces the same prognostic as Western Europe.
It is the last nail on the coffin of Fukuyama’s „the end of History“. Turns out that liberal western democracies were not the definitive victors of the global struggle and history rolls on inexorably.
US is backing down from saying military force is an option they are trying to pressure a financial purchase of Greenland. Another party accepting money would imply consent and legitimacy but obviously this would be opposite to the terms of NATO membership so it’s not feasible. Dumb American thinks if he wants something it has a price and can b bought
If it comes to a referendum and the US offers $150k USD to ea ch Canadian…I think many Canadians who are living paycheque to paycheque would jump onboard.