Briten mit doppelter Staatsbürgerschaft ohne britischen Pass könnte aufgrund einer Regeländerung die Einreise verweigert werden

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-citizen-overseas-travel-passport-home-office-b2900514.html

Von tylerthe-theatre

39 Kommentare

  1. People without proper identification would need to go acquire it at an embassy before being allowed to enter the country. Not exactly a news story is it…

  2. Helen83FromVillage on

    Stop, stop, stop. This rule was here previous as well. Moreover, almost all countries do exactly the same thing.

    Nevertheless, with your other citizenships, the country works only with your government-issued documents, except for a very small number of exceptions like “show if you were a foreign citizen”.

  3. I learnt recently that other countries do this too. My sister-in-law is dual national, but can’t go back to Poland currently because her Polish passport is invalid. The US and Canada require it too.

    I would have thought technology would reduce the requirement for this kind of rule though.

  4. I have this issue with the country of my birth. I’m a British citizen, have British parents, have lived in the uk since I was 18 months old, but was born abroad because my parents temporarily lived in another country for a couple of years. As I was born there, I’m automatically a citizen of my country of birth. But I’ve only ever had a Uk passport.

    If I want to enter the country of my birth I *have* to get a passport for that country. I’m not allowed to enter on my Uk passport. It’s quite standard for many countries.

  5. billy_tables on

    Relative works at an airport and there’s a guy who takes a point of pride in not having a passport because border force can’t stop a citizen from entering the country, though of course they can delay you when you have no ID to establish you are one

    So every year or whatever it is this guy goes, he writes ahead to his airline to figure out what arrangement of ID documents would let him get on the plane, skipping over the ones that border force would be able to use to let him back in at a glance

    And then sure enough he flies back home, gets pulled aside to secondary review, and glues things up for an hour while they establish who he is on the “big computer” in the back and let him in

  6. Atlantean_Raccoon on

    I wonder if there is a hidden rule that if you can find 3 things wrong with the wording of that sign then they automatically allow you entry.

  7. I’m sure people with only British citizenship can also be refused entry without passport

    Isn’t this a standard process around the world?

  8. The-Road-To-Awe on

    Lots of people here completely missing the point. A Dual Aus/UK citizen with an Aus passport could be declined entry for not having a British passport. Even though a single Aus citizen would be fine.

  9. polishprocessors on

    Dual (naturalized) citizen here. When we got our citizenship they told us we absolutely had to get British passports to leave the country and, whenever we left or entered, had to do it on our British passports. I travel a lot and it’s a bitch to manage two passports (especially with budget airlines) but that’s just how it works, seems like a nothing burger to me…

  10. Same in Australia. If you’ve got dual citizenship with Australia, you will need Aussie passport to enter the country.

  11. Window-Inevitable on

    I was born in Italy (and have an Italian passport), but have lived in the UK for a decade. I have a British passport too.

    When I but tickets to go to an EU country, I use my Italian passport. And I still use my Italian passport when I come back to the UK. Does this mean that I have to show my British passport when I enter the UK? Did I understand this correctly?

    Not a problem though, I always carry both passports.

  12. Appropriate_Trader on

    I have dual Swedish and British citizenship. If I show my Swedish passport when entering the UK I expect the border control to treat me like a Swede and require any visa’s or similar.

    If I enter using my UK passport I expect to be treated as such.

  13. I thought it was already a rule that to enter/exit the UK you need to show a UK passport (if you’re dual citizen)?

  14. pm_me_meta_memes on

    I’m in this boat:

    My previous status was: Settled Status under the
    EU settlement scheme, that got attached to my Romanian passport so at entry they would check and find that. For work and other reasons, I would share a code.

    Had my citizenship ceremony 3 months ago, was told to only fly on a British passport from now on as technically my Settled Status is null.
    In practice it was very close to a booked flight (not enough time to get my British passport), I flew back from a non-EU country, where they still were able to see my Settled Status on the Romanian Passport and let me board. At entry in the UK, the eGate worked as before.

    The problem is, from February they are adding ETA as a requirement for Europeans, and I was told explictly “don’t fill in a ETA if I’m a citizen”. Hence, I won’t be able to come back on a Ro passport after February.

    They could easily adjust this last bit to say “don’t fill in an ETA if you have a British passport”, but of course they won’t :).

  15. Hot-Acanthaceae4084 on

    This is a pretty standard requirement globally, but it’s going to catch a lot of people off guard who’ve never needed to think about it. The real issue is the Home Office’s track record of making simple bureaucratic processes unnecessarily stressful and difficult.

  16. Behemothslayer on

    So if I have lived in the U.K. for 20 years and hold an Irish passport, I could be refused entry??

  17. speedyspeedys on

    I’m confused, so we were letting come and go without them having a UK passport?

  18. SchoolForSedition on

    There are many people who don’t realise they are British citizens.

    I presume they will inadvertently wrongly say they aren’t to obtain an ETA.

    I wonder whether there will be any further consequences.

  19. LordAnchemis on

    Once you’re at the border – they can’t exactly refuse you entry if you’re BC anyway
    The issue lies on airlines not transporting you – which has been the case for eons

  20. Neither_Computer5331 on

    Would this apply to Northern Ireland residents travelling on Irish passports? It’ll not be popular if that’s the case!

  21. Side comment: it’s really difficult to read an article on that website. The Independent has such potential to be a great newspaper – but their website just lets them down.

  22. jodrellbank_pants on

    Yeah I used to come back way before my passport expired just for that reason.

  23. LongjumpingLunch5036 on

    What does this mean for those with settled status but not citizenship?

  24. I’m a little confused and was hoping someone would help clear this up for me – I was born in London to parents born in the UK, spent some years growing up in Aus so got citizenship + a passport, and recently got an Irish passport through my Irish grandparents. However, my UK passport has expired. If I was using, say, my Australian passport to travel would there be an issue when trying to return to the UK?

  25. This became a minor PITA for me. We migrated to NZ and became citizens by grant there. I’d let my UK passport lapse, because we only come to the UK to visit family and friends now. Up until recently an ETA in the NZ passport was fine, so why have two passports?

    Have to renew the UK one now, grumble, grumble …

  26. chatham_solar on

    My partner is a dual UK/EU citizen, residing in a Schengen country. Does this mean they would have to carry both passports when travelling between the UK and Europe? UK passport to enter the UK on the outbound leg, and EU passport to enter Europe on the return leg? This is confusing because their passport details would be different for each flight.

  27. „As British and Irish citizens are exempt from ETA’s, they must now travel on a British or Irish passport or present a certificate of entitlement.“

    I think a fair amount of non British passport holders will have an Irish one. So there’s that at least

  28. Defiant-Yellow-2375 on

    Not helped by the fact that getting a passport overseas usually means dealing with VFS global. If there is a more shit organisation on the planet, I’ve never heard of it. They’re fu**ing dreadful.

  29. „As British and Irish citizens are exempt from ETA’s, they must now travel on a British or Irish passport or present a certificate of entitlement.“

    If I’m reading this right, does that mean no change for British/Irish dual citizens? We can still just have an Irish passport?

  30. PakistaniJanissary on

    This was always the case…. How can you even board without this being checked?

  31. Taken_Abroad_Book on

    I always assumed this was the case anyway. Surprised it’s not.

    If you’re at the border with a passport from somewhere else how else do you prove you’re allowed in without a visa? Just trust me bro?

  32. AlarmedCicada256 on

    I don’t see it as the business of the UK government to know what citizenships I hold, unless I choose to enter a profession like the military, or security services, where it is relevant.

  33. Just apply for an ETA anyway if you want to use your non-UK passport. Who’s gonna stop you or even know?

  34. You can, and it is legal to enter the UK without a passport, if you are a British citizen.

    However, airlines are not obligated to honour your travel arrangements if you cannot produce a British passport (or another passport with appropriate entry authorization, or an EU national ID card if you also have settled status [not recommended: this is becoming quite niche knowledge]). Airlines don’t want to risk being fined for carrying someone who has to be sent back.

    Additionally, if you did manage to get to the border, you’d likely be detained while your citizenship was being verified. Obviously a driving license and other identifying documents might be sufficient.

    You can also get a certificate of entitlement in your other passport. Or procure emergency travel documents from the British embassy.

    Hope this clears up

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