Currently, the United States by far leads NATO with defense spending and military force. To reflect this: France, UK, and Germany collectively spend about a quarter as much as the United States does.
With that said, the sky isn’t going to fall if the United States were to leave NATO, but leading politicians absolutely know that it will only be a shell of what it once was. Redditors can barge on the internet to froth at the mouth and pretend otherwise, but that’s not reality.
Unique_Falcon_8302 on
I fear, unfortunately, that we will witness the death of the NATO very soon.
If the United States seizes Greenland, and this seems to be more than just a threat, the NATO will be finished.
That’s exactly what Trump wanted, back in 1987, in his op-ed in the press upon his return from his trip to Moscow…
briancito on
From what I am reading this is addressing a hypothetical US take over with a polite, „No thanks, we’re protected“
But it’s not calling out a NATO ally for attempting to take over? I guess it’s odd that they aren’t addressing a soured relationship.
Jhonka86 on
What a fuckin ride it’ll be if article 5 was only invoked twice: once by the US, and once against the US.
CommercialFormal7614 on
Is there a single person that actually supports taking Greenland by force besides Trump? This is insane.
Milanesa_Torta on
American here. Nato should absolutely arm up and fight the bullshit
Numerous-Bowler-8677 on
One thing that I don’t see any news discussing is how Trump would „take“ Greenland.
In order to take it and make Greenland part of the US requires congress right? At most Trump orders the military to go to Greenland and kind of just sit there. (Contrary to what Denmark say, I doubt anyone would be shooting at the US military)
Then what? Trump can’t just absorb territory for the US by himself right? At some point someone else will be president and order the military to just leave Greenland.
Initial-Bass-5866 on
As a member of NATO, I agree
lyidaValkris on
Yes. That was the agreement signed.
pattyG80 on
Greenland saying all kinds of stuff today. I agree with this one because they are a territory of Denmark.
However, earlier today, they wanted to be independent and to do that, they would need to negotiate their own way into NATO.
TheWizard on
At this time, I would be more worried about buying support (directly, or indirectly) from the inside, to turn their political situation around. Military action is likely to be the last resort. Greenlanders must prepare for the present day work.
Tribalbob on
If the US were serious about this being a defense issue then NATO agreeing to station more troops or build more bases should make them happy.
But it won’t.
Because it’s not about that.
IceFireTerry on
I still don’t think it’s going to happen but the fact that I’m kind of doubting myself is crazy
Itwasuntilitwasnt on
Trump jealous of Putin getting all the attention. Damn dictators always trying to 1 up each other. Unfortunately for Greenland if it wants to fight it will have to fight like Ukraine.
Because NATO is chicken poo. This Is a serious question idk the answer. What would happen if all NATO countries slapped a 70% tariff on all incoming and outgoing products to the US ? Would the US ppl suffer at all ?
My point being is Americans only protest when the wallet gets lighter. Or a special drug that a lot of ppl take is from Europe that would be taxed Quadruple.. I have American Friends. And most are oblivious to anything except what’s going on in their own town.
Got in a cab 1 1/2 from Canada and was talking to the cab driver she was complaining about fixing her car. I told her to drive to Canada and get her parts there. As her money was worth a lot more. She had no clue that she was only 1 1/2 from the border. And she had lived in that city her whole life. I was like wtf.
DrNarwhale1 on
FUCK. PAYWALLED. ARTICLES.
Tutorbin76 on
Well, Greenland is only protected by NATO so long as it is under Denmark, a member state.
That’s why Trump is working so hard to get gullible mouthpieces like Björk to encourage them to break away first.
systematicoverthink on
It’s about Dryden Brown/Praxis & „Freedom Cities“
Pepsi_Popcorn_n_Dots on
Better start getting a few thousand NATO troops there then!
Calm-Professional103 on
NATO EX-USA!
ThePensiveE on
Greenland, until the people choose otherwise, is a Danish possession. NATO should defend it and repel any invader from the East or the West.
wrghf on
I’m confused by what exactly they want.
They want independence from Denmark, but they don’t want to join the US, but they also want protection from NATO.
It sounds like they want to have their cake and eat it too.
huntsab2090 on
Putin is scared of nato so needs to weaken it. Just like he was scared of the eu and he funded the weakening of that. Although not as much as he wanted. So trump threatening a nato allie is 100% exactly what someone would do when being told to by Russia
GhostCouncilKarlov on
Putin and Trump want to carve up Europe. Just waiting on a non aggression pact.
therealallpro on
Exactly it SHOULD…but as when have seen that’s not really how the world works. Europe has been neglecting its security for decades. This is the consequences.
mykidsthinkimcool on
1. *Diplomatically* get more US bases in Greenland.
2. Increase US presence over time. (It won’t take long to get more than 57000 US citizens in Greenland.)
3. Profit.
So easy a caveman could do it.
hould-it on
They should change their name to Epstein Island until the full file release. And only publish the name change in US tabloids.
MelKokoNYC on
Did any maga moron that voted for Trumpy request all this war bullshit from him?
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It should be and is protected by NATO.
Minus the US it seems.
Isn’t that the entire point of NATO?
Currently, the United States by far leads NATO with defense spending and military force. To reflect this: France, UK, and Germany collectively spend about a quarter as much as the United States does.
With that said, the sky isn’t going to fall if the United States were to leave NATO, but leading politicians absolutely know that it will only be a shell of what it once was. Redditors can barge on the internet to froth at the mouth and pretend otherwise, but that’s not reality.
I fear, unfortunately, that we will witness the death of the NATO very soon.
If the United States seizes Greenland, and this seems to be more than just a threat, the NATO will be finished.
That’s exactly what Trump wanted, back in 1987, in his op-ed in the press upon his return from his trip to Moscow…
From what I am reading this is addressing a hypothetical US take over with a polite, „No thanks, we’re protected“
But it’s not calling out a NATO ally for attempting to take over? I guess it’s odd that they aren’t addressing a soured relationship.
What a fuckin ride it’ll be if article 5 was only invoked twice: once by the US, and once against the US.
Is there a single person that actually supports taking Greenland by force besides Trump? This is insane.
American here. Nato should absolutely arm up and fight the bullshit
One thing that I don’t see any news discussing is how Trump would „take“ Greenland.
In order to take it and make Greenland part of the US requires congress right? At most Trump orders the military to go to Greenland and kind of just sit there. (Contrary to what Denmark say, I doubt anyone would be shooting at the US military)
Then what? Trump can’t just absorb territory for the US by himself right? At some point someone else will be president and order the military to just leave Greenland.
As a member of NATO, I agree
Yes. That was the agreement signed.
Greenland saying all kinds of stuff today. I agree with this one because they are a territory of Denmark.
However, earlier today, they wanted to be independent and to do that, they would need to negotiate their own way into NATO.
At this time, I would be more worried about buying support (directly, or indirectly) from the inside, to turn their political situation around. Military action is likely to be the last resort. Greenlanders must prepare for the present day work.
If the US were serious about this being a defense issue then NATO agreeing to station more troops or build more bases should make them happy.
But it won’t.
Because it’s not about that.
I still don’t think it’s going to happen but the fact that I’m kind of doubting myself is crazy
Trump jealous of Putin getting all the attention. Damn dictators always trying to 1 up each other. Unfortunately for Greenland if it wants to fight it will have to fight like Ukraine.
Because NATO is chicken poo. This Is a serious question idk the answer. What would happen if all NATO countries slapped a 70% tariff on all incoming and outgoing products to the US ? Would the US ppl suffer at all ?
My point being is Americans only protest when the wallet gets lighter. Or a special drug that a lot of ppl take is from Europe that would be taxed Quadruple.. I have American Friends. And most are oblivious to anything except what’s going on in their own town.
Got in a cab 1 1/2 from Canada and was talking to the cab driver she was complaining about fixing her car. I told her to drive to Canada and get her parts there. As her money was worth a lot more. She had no clue that she was only 1 1/2 from the border. And she had lived in that city her whole life. I was like wtf.
FUCK. PAYWALLED. ARTICLES.
Well, Greenland is only protected by NATO so long as it is under Denmark, a member state.
That’s why Trump is working so hard to get gullible mouthpieces like Björk to encourage them to break away first.
It’s about Dryden Brown/Praxis & „Freedom Cities“
Better start getting a few thousand NATO troops there then!
NATO EX-USA!
Greenland, until the people choose otherwise, is a Danish possession. NATO should defend it and repel any invader from the East or the West.
I’m confused by what exactly they want.
They want independence from Denmark, but they don’t want to join the US, but they also want protection from NATO.
It sounds like they want to have their cake and eat it too.
Putin is scared of nato so needs to weaken it. Just like he was scared of the eu and he funded the weakening of that. Although not as much as he wanted. So trump threatening a nato allie is 100% exactly what someone would do when being told to by Russia
Putin and Trump want to carve up Europe. Just waiting on a non aggression pact.
Exactly it SHOULD…but as when have seen that’s not really how the world works. Europe has been neglecting its security for decades. This is the consequences.
1. *Diplomatically* get more US bases in Greenland.
2. Increase US presence over time. (It won’t take long to get more than 57000 US citizens in Greenland.)
3. Profit.
So easy a caveman could do it.
They should change their name to Epstein Island until the full file release. And only publish the name change in US tabloids.
Did any maga moron that voted for Trumpy request all this war bullshit from him?