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    Die Petition des Abgeordneten, gegen Kanadier zu ermitteln, die in der IDF gedient haben, sei „antisemitische Hexenjagd“, sagt eine jüdische Gruppe


    Die Petition des Abgeordneten, gegen Kanadier zu ermitteln, die in der IDF gedient haben, sei „antisemitische Hexenjagd“, sagt eine jüdische Gruppe

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/jewish-groups-condemn-petition-canadians-idf

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    1. the_normal_person on

      I will never understand the left’s obsession with Israel Palestine. Last federal race, this issue seemed to be like 75% of what my local candidate talked about, my union is inexplicably obsessed with it, it’s completely baffling to me. No foreign conflict has the same ideological chokehold on the left than this. The NDP, unions, and the like desperately need to give their head a shake on this issue but I honestly think they’re so deep in their own ideology there’s no escape from the self-sabotage. When even not taking a position is taking a position, there’s no win for these people.

    2. The_King_of_Canada on

      It isn’t anti-semetic.

      Say it with me. Israel does not represent Judaism. Israel is a nation state. That nation state has been shown to have committed war crimes and genocide using their military. Canadians who partook in committing war crimes or genocide need to be at the very least investigated.

      This is about a nation state, not a religion.

    4. Appropriate-Dog6645 on

      Canada signed the four 1949 Geneva Conventions in 1949 and ratified them on 14 May 1965; they entered into force for Canada on 14 November 1965.

      Convention I
      Protects wounded and sick members of armed forces in the field, along with medical personnel, ensuring humane treatment, care, and respect for their persons. Parties must search for, collect, and evacuate the wounded without adverse distinction.

      Convention II
      Extends similar protections to wounded, sick, and shipwrecked members of armed forces at sea, including those on hospital ships or adrift. It mandates collection, care, and protection against ill-treatment

      Convention III
      Covers prisoners of war, requiring humane treatment from capture through release, including adequate food, shelter, medical care, and fair trials. It prohibits violence, intimidation, and reprisals.

      Convention IV
      Safeguards civilians in time of war, especially in occupied territory, banning murder, torture, collective punishment, and hostage-taking. It also protects civilian hospitals and ensures basic rights

    5. PotentialRise7587 on

      It’s an established practice for Canadian law enforcement and intelligence to keep tabs on people who have travelled abroad to participate in conflicts.

      I can’t see why this would be the exception. Besides, the IDF contains many faiths, there are well-known Druze and Christian units.

      As a final point, service in a foreign military also is highly likely to make you ineligible for a security clearance, so a database isn’t a terrible idea.

    6. wingerism on

      I’ll take the petition point by point. It’s a mixed bag, and ultimately counterproductive in it’s primary aims. It will do nothing to stop the Genocide.

      > 1. Initiate investigations under The CAHWCA into Canadian citizens and residents who served in the IDF, and if warranted, lay charges or refer to international courts;

      I think this an ultimately symbolic and counterproductive act that does smack of Jew hunting moreso than serious policy. It would never fly unless the Canadian government proscribed the IDF as broadly as it proscribed terrorist entities abroad. Which would of course be more effective than going after Jews in Canada that have served in the IDF. It is meaningless if we don’t even enforce an arms embargo or sanctions on Israel(both of which have my support).

      We didn’t and don’t prosecute war crimes generally based on broad involvement in any nations armed forces but for specific criminality credibly attributed to specific units, or command officers with broader overview that would include specific violations of international law.

      An IDF member who didn’t serve in Gaza or the West Bank couldn’t credibly be said to be complicit in war crimes or genocide. And without voluntary self incrimination or specific intelligence that would prompt an investigation it’s also a futile fishing trip. Because getting details of their service in the IDF would necessitate co-operation from Israel. Which I doubt they would give if we’re blanket investigating everyone that served, or even just returned from Israel.

      > Cooperate with international courts by sharing findings and providing financial or law enforcement support, as exemplified by assistance to the ICC’s investigation of Russian war crimes in Ukraine

      I would assume we’re already doing so in regards to the actual ICC cases for war crimes targeting Netanyahu and select war cabinet members. Ditto for the ICJ case brought regarding genocide. There is no broad ICC case against regular IDF members to engage with here.

      > Direct the Canada Border Services Agency to screen Canadian citizens/residents returning from Israel for foreign military service

      Counterproductive as I outlined above and unnecessarily prejudicial besides.

      > Investigate the HESEG Foundation for violations of section 11(1) of Canada’s Foreign Enlistment Act

      Slam dunk I’m in support of assuming it’s not selective prosecution which becomes problematic.

      > Issue warnings that Canadians serving/volunteering with the IDF may face criminal liability under Canadian law; and

      Again fine if not selective.

      > Create a government website to collect information from Gaza/West Bank war crime victims/witnesses, as in the case of Ukraine.

      Also a great idea.

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