Eine neue Studie mit mehr als 15.000 Männern untersuchte acht Marker toxischer Männlichkeit und stellte fest, dass nur 10,8 % der in die Studie einbezogenen Männer klare Anzeichen toxischer Männlichkeit aufwiesen. Dieser Befund zeigt, dass die überwiegende Mehrheit der Männer nicht „toxisch“ ist und nicht an destruktive männliche Einstellungen glaubt.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-asymmetric-brain/202601/good-news-study-shows-that-most-men-are-not-toxic
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That 10.8% sure makes a lot of noise though.
Only 11%? I think that’s a notable minority. I had assumed it would have been closer to 2-5%.
Does the actual study detail the demographics of the sample population? Self-reporting is always iffy to begin with, and I can’t help but take this with a pound of salt.
Edit: Fifteen thousand men from New Zealand. Yeah nevermind. I’d like to see this in the US or somewhere else with high occurrence of cultural misogyny.
10.8 definitely show clear, and a lot more show concerning.
do the same with women
10% are the loudest most vocal so they get the mic. Same with most extremist behaviors.
Only 35.4% scored as atoxic though.
We already knew that 10-12% of society are dumb assholes
Is this not the case for most things like this? An extreme, radical few, tarnish the reputation or name of an entire group.
This finding should be wholly unsurprising. The idea that all masculinity is toxic is a fiction created to dismiss the feminist work that coined the term toxic masculinity in order to discuss specifically those limited parts of masculinity that are toxic.
To be equal, are they goin to do a toxic feminine test.
I don’t feel like you can make a general statement like this when your entire group of participants is from New Zealand….
I personally found some of the 8 markers unfitting. Numbers 2-3-4 have nothing specific to do with being a man. Both men and women have sexual prejudices, narcissistic tendencies and disagreeable characteristics.
The rest seem much more fitting, although I find it interesting that “toxic masculinity” is actually not defined by masculinity. It is more defined by anti-femininity! At least in the study. So it’s less about seeing themselves more, and more about seeing the other major gender less. I would go as far as calling “rebranding” such individuals anti-feminine.
I’d like to see the quiz. That number doesn’t really mean much given that it’s so subjective.
Define toxic masculinity
i would also like to see men in groups. funny things groups of men are, sometimes wholesome but like all other groups feed off each other.
So, if the online myth was not confirmed, shall the next study look into people who spread it?
Gonna be that guy and ask if a similar study could be conducted for women? Or are we not that progressive yet?
I wonder if it would be different in the US from this population in New Zealand.
I would be super interested to see the Venn diagram between this 10% and the dating pool for women.
Unsurprisingly, research has shown that 9 to 12% of American men have antisocial or narcissistic personality disorders.
If you go by what society considers to be a „toxic male“, then it’s probably around 75%. But 10 or 11% sounds about right if you grade it realistically, at least anecdotally.
The term „toxic masculinity“ is unhelpful and potentially damaging because it functions more as an inflammatory buzzword than a scientifically accurate descriptor. It actually kind of wild that we focus so heavily on this concept when the hard data shows nearly 90% of men are just normal decent people who do not fit that description at all. It feels like we are alienating the vast majority of guys by constantly obsessing over the behavior of a small minority. It is good to finally see some actual stats that push back against the narrative that masculinity is inherently the problem.
Good. Let’s get that 10.8% down to zero shall we?
How many of you have met more than 10 men? Every single person is affected by this issue of toxic masculinity, some just have more at risk than others.
Looking at the numbers only about 35% were atoxic with the rest having variable levels. I feel this issue is easier understood though some common knowledge and a hypothetical.
One is how online more reactionary comments and content can drive views and engagement and how it pushes toxic views.
The bigger thing is if we had a table of ten men 1 makes a sexist joke the men either say quite or laugh but only for one calls him out on it how many of those men are being toxic. Would the one man who called out the toxic behavior still associate himself with those men?
If 10.8 percent of all vehicles sold had a dangerous defect no one would be calling that a low percentage. I would say that this percentage is high given the overall number of men that people interact with.
I think that a better set of questions would pertain to the odds of interacting with someone with these traits per some unit of time, or the likelihood of such people being part of a given social circle. It might also be interesting to see how likely it is to be paired up with one while dating.
No such thing as toxic masculinity, it’s a term created to emasculate men.
Important to note that this study was done on men in New Zealand.
I think we all know that American culture is different, and it values a lot of the traits that drive toxic masculinity.
with more than 50% being „moderately“ toxic. Yep….. sounds about right. These are the ones laughing at the „jokes“ and nodding along to the toxic views spread by the 10%. Hardly a benign position
I mean yeah that’s why it’s called toxic masculinity and not just masculinity
Who decides what the markers are?
Oooh twoX sub hates this so much
Ya, how about we sample right wing states in the USA and run the test again.
If 1 out if 10 m&Ms were poison, I’d avoid the whole bowl.
Wonder about the age distribution of these as well. Certainly higher in older men.
These are the 8 markers of toxic „masculinity“ in what world can these be attributed just to masculinity?.
This is mostlybjust a list of bad things.
> Gender identity centrality:
> Sexual prejudice:
> Disagreeableness:
> Narcissism:
> Hostile sexism:
> Benevolent sexism:
> Opposition to domestic violence prevention initiatives:
> Social dominance orientation:
That is a terrifyingly high percentage