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19 Kommentare
> The wording of the document, seen by the Guardian, has alarmed some religious groups, with Jewish and Muslim leaders defending the cultural importance of the practice.
Too fucking bad. A boy’s right to bodily autonomy trumps whatever your magical space ghost or its book of fairy tales say.
Make it only legal where there is a medical necessity, people can pay to have it done electively at adulthood if need be.
Non medical circumcision is 100% child abuse and barbaric.
Religions have always modernised with times, holding on to a medieval practice is disgraceful and this is far too slow in happening.
Culture and religion are not more important than child’s lives.
There are no other circumstances in which we’d let an untrained person chop off part of a child’s body without anaesthetic, for no medical reason.
The children can have it done when they’re able to consent. I say 18 not 16 because it’s a lot easier for parents to put a 16yo under intolerable pressure, at an age when leaving home is almost impossible.
Someone in the article likened it to ear piercing – I also think it shouldn’t be done until the child is old enough to consent, but as it’s fundamentally reversible in a way circumcision isn’t, the age could be much lower – 8, perhaps.
This’ll go down well with a couple religious groups.
Ban it for children entirely, except when it’s medically necessary.
It *is* child abuse, no matter what your special book says, there’s literally no reason to mutilate your child and anyone in support of it is a sicko and needs putting on a list.
Unless it’s being done for medical reasons, then it isn’t needed and will result in pain, possible infection and even death. So yeh, it’s abuse for religion’s sake.
Good. Unless there is a medical reason (e.g phismosis where other treatments failed) it should be a decision made in adulthood. It’s a form of genital mutilation and no religious dogma can trump the fact that it is barbaric and wrong.
In America it’s still legal for a rabbi to clean the wound with their mouth after. I wish I was joking.
I’m all for this, we shouldn’t be mutilating children without their consent and babies definitely can’t consent.
See /r/intactivism if you were ever in any doubt that it’s abuse.
Iceland’s government tried to ban circumcision and folded mainly to to allow for religious reasons. Of course the main reasons for cosmetic procedures are religions, and you know which religions.
This will fail to go anywhere, especially under Labour that need Muslim votes and can’t stand up to any accusations of anti-semitism no matter how spurious.
It would be great is they put an end to it but the government is too spineless.
I had to have one at 30 for medical issues, I had the skin of dirk digger, but not so much on the inside, so it had to come off
I see the difference and the scars, don’t bother me or any woman I’ve ever been with, I’m the unicorn of outcomes as it became 3x more sensitive (normally the opposite)
However, when I think about doing this on an unknowing child, it’s „open net“ levels of child abuse
It should be illegal and there should not even be a debate or any pandering to organised abuser groups like religion
Slicing off parts of a child’s body should only ever be done when a doctor says „this is medically necessary“ and I bet that would be about 0.01% of boys
It should be treated the same as FGM, in that, even if you travel abroad for the procedure, it is still illegal.
Circumcising robs men from experiencing sexual gratification the way our bodies are designed to experience it.
Good, because it is. Leave other people’s dicks alone.
> there is not a specific criminal offence of carrying out male circumcision”.
> However, this can be a painful and harmful practice, if carried out incorrectly or in inappropriate circumstances
So they’re not banning it but at least expecting it to be done by someone with actual skill. I found out from another story recently that literally anyone can legally be a circumciser which regardless of your opinion on the practice itself is absolute madness.
It is, but it never will be banned because we’ve built a legal system that allows for „religious exemption“. And because it’s a religious practice and that’s the only people really doing it in this country, it will continue to happen just behind closed doors with worse outcomes because it’ll be done without doctors.
I don’t think non-medical circumcision should be legal on anyone who isn’t an adult and can’t make their own decision.
I respect religions, but the worse the Christians do is dunk your head in water. If you decide later on in life that you don’t agree with it then there is no harm done. If you are missing your foreskin however… well fuck.
I think we need to allow it for adults, but not children. Because a child, no matter what faith they’re brought up in or born into, cannot reasonably consent to an irreversible procedure. There’s no health benefits to circumcision that cannot be achieved without basic hygiene and condoms.
You can down vote me as much as you want but any kind of mutilation, marking or perforation (for the people that like to put earrings on babies) should be considered a crime as those are barbaric customs that completely remove the idea of freewill to a new being.
For parents, educators and everyone out there. Babies/children (acrual people) are not a possession and your role is to educate them for the fair, honest, balanced and happy society. From that any physical change, with any reasoning other than healthcare, must not happen.