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    Terroraufsichtsbehörde fordert Social-Media-Verbot für Jugendliche unter 16 Jahren nach australischem Vorbild


    Terroraufsichtsbehörde fordert Social-Media-Verbot für Jugendliche unter 16 Jahren nach australischem Vorbild

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/terror-watchdog-calls-for-australian-style-under-16s-social-media-ban-5HjdQ8Y_2/

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    1. Diligent_Craft_1165 on

      Badly need those government ids to make something like this work. Combined with Palantir we can create a ‘machine’ like in Person of Interest where the government can protect us from all relevant threats. There’s no way anyone could use this for nefarious reasons.

    2. audigex on

      Ridiculous. It was silly when Australia did it and it would be silly if we do it.

      When we give up our freedoms and way of life in the name of hiding from terrorism, the terrorists win

      We take away freedom from millions of our own teenagers, and terrorist groups will have found ways round it within a week

      And then we wonder why the UK is falling behind on tech. We’re a parody of a nation

    4. recursant on

      How about first we develop a regulated, double-blind age verification mechanism?

      It would have to allow me to verify my age to a website, but without the website knowing who I am, and without the age verification service knowing which site had requested the verification.

      All the website would know is that I am some unknown person who is definitely over 16. All the age verification service would know is that they had told some unknown website that I am definitely over 16.

      That would protect children without compromising my privacy.

      But we all know what will actually happen. Every time I want to access any website I will have to submit a copy of my passport to some or other big US corp, who will know every site I visit online, and who would be legally obliged to share that information with the government, and would also end up sharing that information with criminals when they inevitably get hacked.

      We know that will happen because this is nothing to do with protecting children, the government just want to know everything about everybody.

    5. NathanDavie on

      Agree with a ban on under 18s using social media. Concurrently, schools need to start working on giving the next generation the critical thinking skills to navigate the internet without believing fake stuff or basing their own sense of self esteem on influencers.

      This is a tool for learning, communication and just generally making life easier. Do the bare minimum of following up on sources if you read something that seems dubious.

    6. Lammtarra95 on

      Ban under-16s to prevent over-16s being radicalised and going on murderous sprees. Is that the pitch? There are lots of reasons to get children off social media 24×7 but this does not seem to be one of them.

    8. DSQ on

      My issue with the social media ban is that I do agree with it in theory but the reality is until there is proper moderation of these apps and proper parental supervision of children any ban would be pointless.

    9. jenny_905 on

      Seems we’re very willing to admit social media is shit… but only for children.

      Time to be honest and admit it is as bad if not worse for adults. Either regulate it for content properly or ban it entirely.

    10. RainbowRedYellow on

      Honestly social media is the only way to get alot of accurate information about what is going on in the world I see this as a consolidation by corrupt social media sites and legacy media to try and cultivate the opinions of the young… And basically groom them into becoming neo-nazis.

    12. Own-Victory473 on

      Always protecting the kids by letting them grow up clueless and isolating them from friends, yeah brilliant, all these groups just want your data nothing else and theyll use any excuse to monitor you

    13. m1ndwipe on

      Yeah, it’s really time that these quango heads – the reviewer of Terrorism legislation, the Children’s Commissioner et al – had some accountability for their dumb and incredibly political lobbying put on them.

      Why do they accept public money to unaccountably lobby for legal changes? If they want to do that, quit and stand as an MP.

    14. GhostRiders on

      Here is a wild idea, how about we actually make the various Social Media Platforms?

      Currently they are doing absolute minimum, in many cases even less yet apparently this is fine?

      In 2022 over 90% off all CSAM that was reported to the US Law enforcement agencies were on Platforms owned by Meta.

      Similar figures can be found in many other countries.

      So why are we not demanding that Governments actually make Meta responsible instead introducing draconian measures ?

    15. miku_dominos on

      Stepping stone for a digital ID for everyone under the guise of think of the children.

    16. MrSoapbox on

      Oh my god! It’s only been five fucking minutes.

      Right, I’m fine with banning under 16s from social media if _and only if_ that means I, as an adult, don’t need to start proving myself and having to hand away my data. Can you do that? No? I’m sick of this constant puritan bullshit because _bad parents can’t parent_.

      The tools are already in place. Use them.

    17. Bobo3076 on

      We should be on the streets protesting this.

      They won’t stop until they control every aspect of your life, so we need to stop them ourselves.

    18. HMWYA on

      I’m much more concerned by the amount of 40+ year olds getting radicalised into racism, transphobia and other forms of bigotry by Facebook and Twitter than I am by 14 year olds watching brainrot on TikTok.

    19. LJ-696 on

      Don’t know why anyone would he surprised.

      Social media for years have been told to clean house and stop guiding with algorithms.

      Parents have not bothered to regulate what their kids view.

      This is the result.

    20. ohthedarside on

      Half the reason alot of teenagers can even cope with todays world is thanks to the social interaction of social media

      For all the hatred towards social media it does alot of good aswell

    21. No-Letterhead9608 on

      If you’re an authoritarian government and you’re looking for a pretext to eliminate civil liberties without facing public resistance, calling it a necessary measure to ‘protect the children’ or ‘combat terrorism’ is exactly how you’d go about it. Because then any opposition can be dubbed support for terrorism or child predators.

    22. Astriania on

      Let’s see how it works in Australia first, they have taken the plunge first and we can use them as a bit of a case study.

      I actually think it’s a decent idea in principle. We didn’t let kids see the kind of material you get on social media before the internet age, and we had age restrictions on magazines for good reasons – never mind the ability to chat to random weirdos with no way for your parents to see or control it.

      But it remains to be seen how it can actually work in a way that isn’t a huge privacy issue. The age verification requirements of the OSA are not done well, so if we were to introduce this law today it would likely also not be done well.

      Though there is a different mechanism available here – require that social media providers don’t permit accounts for under 16s. You can still access the public content but you can’t make connections and interactions (or extend the reach of content) and maybe that would be enough.

    23. lifeisaman on

      If the primary concern is terrorism you’d be more successful closing every Mosque in the country given 75% of MI5’s time Is spent combating Muslim terrorists.

    24. Suitable408 on

      Why is there such an obsession with treating 15 year olds like 2 year olds and banning them from the internet? 

    25. MultiMidden on

      Social Media companies use algorithms to push content (including paid for content) make them jointly liable for terrorist/extremist propaganda. If the UK and EU did that SM would be transformed overnight because Meta, Google, TikTok… can’t afford to lose the ad revenue (they will bend the knee to governments in the interests of $$$).

    27. Livelih00d on

      Let us surveil you more. Sacrifice more of your freedoms. Submit to more restrictions. Only we can keep you Safe™.

    28. FewAnybody2739 on

      I’d like it if kids weren’t hooked on social media (or at least, not from so young), but this would be a massive overreach of anti-terror powers.

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