Hallo zusammen,
Ich miete in der Schweiz und habe kürzlich diese Nachricht von der Person erhalten, die die Unterkunft verwaltet (siehe Beschreibung unten). Ich suche eine objektive Sichtweise, insbesondere von Leuten, die mit der Schweizer Mietkultur vertraut sind.
Kontext: Gemeinschafts-/Gemeinschaftsbereich, Hauptmieter, ein weiterer Mieter und ich. Auf einer Sanitärfläche war ein sehr kleiner Fleck zurückgeblieben (leicht zu reinigen, kein Schaden), ich habe ihn nach der Benachrichtigung sofort gereinigt.
Zu den Nachrichten, die ich erhielt, gehörten Dinge wie: – „Lügen Sie mich nicht an“ (für ein Balkonfenster) – Nennen Sie es eine „extreme Sauerei“ – „Was werden die anderen Mieter von Ihnen denken?“
Ich verstehe voll und ganz die Erwartungen, die öffentlichen Bereiche sauber zu halten. Das ist nicht das Problem. Was ich in Frage stelle, ist der Ton und die Eskalation, die sich im Vergleich zur Situation moralisierend und unverhältnismäßig anfühlten.
In der Schweiz bin ich es gewohnt, dass die Kommunikation eher sachlich, ruhig und verhältnismäßig ist, insbesondere im Mietkontext. Das fühlte sich eher wie Druck oder Scham an als wie eine praktische Erinnerung.
Meine Fragen also: – Wird diese Art der Kommunikation hier als normal angesehen? – Würden Sie dies als akzeptables Verhalten des Vermieters/Verwalters ansehen? – Wie würden Sie in einem Schweizer Kontext normalerweise reagieren: eine kurze Bestätigung oder eine Zurückweisung im Ton?
Ich möchte nicht eskalieren, sondern nur verstehen, ob meine Wahrnehmung falsch ist oder ob dies objektiv übertrieben ist.
Vielen Dank für Ihre Erkenntnisse.
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Von WishGroundbreaking25
23 Kommentare
It’s excessive and patronizing, not normal at all.
Normally here the landlords would send neutral messages.
If you don’t feel comfortable, you can either tell them to get lost, if you like facing people, or you should move somewhere else, you can’t change a person.
This is not normal lol
ye bruh ngl these people are insane
Landlord is bonkers
I leave notes to my neighbors when they take my laundry day, but I always add a smiley;)
But you haven’t answered. What will the other tenants think of you? 🤣
oh hell nah. runn, this is a case for a professional…
i wish this question didn’t matter in Switzerland, but … what’s your ethnic background?
Why would other tenants be seeing your bathtub?
This is wild..why were they in your flat…fucking report them.
Hi, I’d like to say otherwise, not least as I’m now Swiss, but this is pretty close to something we’ve experienced including the unfounded and weirdly escalated accusations about lying.
Even when it became clear that the owner was mistaken there was no apology.
That said and although it was weirdly „anal retentive“ and the accusations were definitely disappointing, we have are now neighbors in our own house and have maintained a pretty decent relationship.
In short pretty normal but I wouldn’t worry about it too much – otherwise you might just be as Swiss as the rest of us 🙄
Eww it’s borderline abusive
clear case for r/bünzli
appropriate answer for copy/paste:
entspann di du vogel sus kriegsch no en herzinfarkt. obwohl… 🤷♂️
Crazy? I was crazy once they stuck me in a room, a room with a little dry soap and soap makes me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once they stuck me in a room, a room with a little dry soap and soap makes me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once they stuck me in a room, a room with a little dry soap and soap makes me crazy. Crazy? I was crazy once they stuck me in a room, a room with a little dry soap and soap makes me crazy.
Good lord. Bonkers.
In Very much swiss landlord fashion he is insane, patronazing and over reacting.
That’s not ok. I wish you could answer them to fck off
It is excessive and unhinged. Sadly, It is „normal“ in how common that is in Switzerland. There are many older people that are absolutely uptight and unhinged. Often your typical +60 years men , that had a career, some financial success, a housewife and basically treat anyone below them like shit.
They’ll smile to everyone in the street but will go absolutely apeshit for anything outside of their box-shaped mind. There’s even the „bünzli“ meme due to them.
You gotta kill em with niceness. It throws folks like this for a loop. Thank them sincerely for showing you how you erred. Apologize profusely for your shortcomings. Take control by playing their game better than they do.
Top it off. Ask them to demonstrate the correct way to clean it up, thereby having them perform the task for you.
Have fun with it.
Always look at the bright side of life.
Sounds like the witch I have lived with at the beginn of my Switzerland journey
Fuck dealing with a landlord like that. Block their WhatsApp and they can communicate with you by letter if they have anything important to say.
you shouldn’t tolerate this but i’m not surprised.
We all come across a crazy landlord at least once. Part of the journey lol
In Swiss law landlords cannot just enter rented out promises. They need to announce their visit in writing and with a reason (e.g. water damage, inspection of devices etc).
It’s completely illegal what they did here but I am not a lawyer.