„The Romans regard themselves first above all
others: therefore, in this work of eradication or extirpation, we
should rightly give them precedence, declaring that no reference should be made to them in any discussion of linguistic excellence.
We therefore affirm that the language
of the Romans (not language, indeed, but rather squalid speech) is the ugliest
of the Italian languages – which is not surprising, because even in their ugly manners and appearances, the Romans appear more lurid than all other peoples.“
HansVonMannschaft on
Shouldn’t Corsica also be included?
Archivist2016 on
What does the Genova comment mean?
Aggressive_Owl4802 on
Well, as someone from Bologna, totally NOT biased by the fact that we’re the only ones he didn’t roast, I still don’t see anything wrong with what he wrote even today!
Though I kinda suspect that good old Dante, having studied here at the University while being extremely frustrated that dear Beatrice wouldn’t give him any kind of „satisfaction“, he found here plenty of… let’s say extra-linguistic reasons to appreciate Bologna.
Bruh holy fuck that’s hysterical. 800 years later and its totally unchanged.
As a fellow Tuscan who’s middle name is Dante… I adore this mans wisdom.
Benginator on
Pfft Bolognese is a fricking pasta sauce
sjdubya on
Dante was a GOAT-tier hater. Would have loved to see him on twitter
MielMielleux on
>Women sound like men
>Men sound like women
Which way modern man?
Raztharion on
>venetians: women sound like men
>romagnans: men sound like women
Why is it still true ffs
Big_P4U on
I am laughing at how unhinged of a rant he actually bothered to go on. How petty and wronged he must’ve been by the various people in the regions he distastes with so much vitriol. It’s hilarious astounding.
No_Artichoke3868 on
Italy had so many vendettas that women ran that country
Xx_GeorgeWBush01_xX on
Che odioso odiatore che era, gli bruciava ancora il culo per l’esilio da firenze hahaha
Wasabismylife on
Dante biggest hater in history confirmed
Theriocephalus on
I think you’ve extended Romagna a touch too far west north — Dante groups Ferrara and Imola together with Bologna, Modena, and Reggio fairly consistently when talking about their shared linguistic traits.
>*Dicimus ergo quod forte non male opinantur, qui Bononienses asserunt pulchriori locutione loquentes, cum ab Imolensibus, Ferrariensibus, et Mutinensibus circumstantibus aliquid proprio Vulgari adsciscunt*
*[…]*
*Hanc ex commixtione advenarum Longobardorum terrigenis credimus remansisse; et hæc est causa, quare Ferrariensium, Mutinensium, vel Regianorum nullum invenimus poetasse.*
Also I’m fairly sure that the Romagna color is actually covering Bologna itself in this map.
>Italy is a whorehouse, whose inhabitants kill each other constantly, imperial correction is needed
Oh, that’s just what things were like in the Renaissance, you know how it is.
Tjaeng on
”Imperial correction is needed”
I thought Dante was a Guelph?
Porxis on
Haha, Dante’s got Italy’s drama mapped out perfectly—love the regional shade!
Schneetmacher on
I laugh with my ancestors at „proud leaders that act like plebs“ 😆
nilsohnee on
Hilarious
ELIASKball on
*he is the reason why florentine became the italian language
tincrayfish on
Hmm I wonder where he was from
Xenoryxa on
Fascinating how Dante nailed those regional quirks—spot on for Tuscany!
mbw70 on
My family is from Ancona, which seems to be lumped in with Roma (Papal States, I guess.) but I don’t think my rural peasant ancestors would have sounded anything like urban, fast-talking Romans.
brigister on
as a Venetian myself, I can confirm I am still not sure whether my exes were men or women (but that’s how we like it over here, that’s just how progressive we are)
octopusnoises on
I love this so much, we really have always hated each other from the start.
nthensome on
What does „their language is Z“ mean?
yIdontunderstand on
Plus ça change….
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A thread on some of the funniest stuff:
„The Romans regard themselves first above all
others: therefore, in this work of eradication or extirpation, we
should rightly give them precedence, declaring that no reference should be made to them in any discussion of linguistic excellence.
We therefore affirm that the language
of the Romans (not language, indeed, but rather squalid speech) is the ugliest
of the Italian languages – which is not surprising, because even in their ugly manners and appearances, the Romans appear more lurid than all other peoples.“
Shouldn’t Corsica also be included?
What does the Genova comment mean?
Well, as someone from Bologna, totally NOT biased by the fact that we’re the only ones he didn’t roast, I still don’t see anything wrong with what he wrote even today!
Though I kinda suspect that good old Dante, having studied here at the University while being extremely frustrated that dear Beatrice wouldn’t give him any kind of „satisfaction“, he found here plenty of… let’s say extra-linguistic reasons to appreciate Bologna.
Dante was the first ragebait manager
Why is Abruzzo a ?
Let me guess, he was from Bologna.
Was he perhaps bolognese?
Friuli Venezia-Giulia (barely) mentioned 🔥🔥🔥🔥💜💜💜💜💜🤑🤑🤑🤑
Americans talking about other states
Now THIS is a good map, bravo!
Bruh holy fuck that’s hysterical. 800 years later and its totally unchanged.
As a fellow Tuscan who’s middle name is Dante… I adore this mans wisdom.
Pfft Bolognese is a fricking pasta sauce
Dante was a GOAT-tier hater. Would have loved to see him on twitter
>Women sound like men
>Men sound like women
Which way modern man?
>venetians: women sound like men
>romagnans: men sound like women
Why is it still true ffs
I am laughing at how unhinged of a rant he actually bothered to go on. How petty and wronged he must’ve been by the various people in the regions he distastes with so much vitriol. It’s hilarious astounding.
Italy had so many vendettas that women ran that country
Che odioso odiatore che era, gli bruciava ancora il culo per l’esilio da firenze hahaha
Dante biggest hater in history confirmed
I think you’ve extended Romagna a touch too far west north — Dante groups Ferrara and Imola together with Bologna, Modena, and Reggio fairly consistently when talking about their shared linguistic traits.
>*Dicimus ergo quod forte non male opinantur, qui Bononienses asserunt pulchriori locutione loquentes, cum ab Imolensibus, Ferrariensibus, et Mutinensibus circumstantibus aliquid proprio Vulgari adsciscunt*
*[…]*
*Hanc ex commixtione advenarum Longobardorum terrigenis credimus remansisse; et hæc est causa, quare Ferrariensium, Mutinensium, vel Regianorum nullum invenimus poetasse.*
Also I’m fairly sure that the Romagna color is actually covering Bologna itself in this map.
>Italy is a whorehouse, whose inhabitants kill each other constantly, imperial correction is needed
Oh, that’s just what things were like in the Renaissance, you know how it is.
”Imperial correction is needed”
I thought Dante was a Guelph?
Haha, Dante’s got Italy’s drama mapped out perfectly—love the regional shade!
I laugh with my ancestors at „proud leaders that act like plebs“ 😆
Hilarious
*he is the reason why florentine became the italian language
Hmm I wonder where he was from
Fascinating how Dante nailed those regional quirks—spot on for Tuscany!
My family is from Ancona, which seems to be lumped in with Roma (Papal States, I guess.) but I don’t think my rural peasant ancestors would have sounded anything like urban, fast-talking Romans.
as a Venetian myself, I can confirm I am still not sure whether my exes were men or women (but that’s how we like it over here, that’s just how progressive we are)
I love this so much, we really have always hated each other from the start.
What does „their language is Z“ mean?
Plus ça change….