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    Der frühere General der griechischen Armee reagiert auf die jüngsten „Vorfälle“, die angeblich über estnische und polnische Luftraum stattgefunden haben – und ruft die Heuchelei Europas aus


    Der frühere General der griechischen Armee reagiert auf die jüngsten „Vorfälle“, die angeblich über estnische und polnische Luftraum stattgefunden haben – und ruft die Heuchelei Europas aus

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    Von 1DarkStarryNight

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    1. Deep-Ad4183 on

      The Russian threat is just as real as the Turkish threat.

      This is where the hypocrisy lies.
      The existence of one threat does not negate the existence of another threat for two countries that approach international affairs in a very similar way.

    3. Brilliant-Rock-277 on

      Lately the Greek goverment officials feel ballsy becuase they have been manipulated by the Isralis. They will get fooled into a war with Turkiye and then get left to pick up the pieces

    6. 1DarkStarryNight on

      Spare us the drama, please, Estonia. Three Russian MiG-31s skim your Gulf of Finland airspace for 12 minutes on September 19, 2025 and Tallinn goes berserk. Minister of Foreign Affairs Margus Tsahkna summons diplomats, Prime Minister Kristen Michal screams “provocation” on X. NATO jets scramble, Ursula enters Top Gun mode. Four violations so far this year – scandalous! 

      Meanwhile, Greece weathers thousands of Turkish incursions yearly. Europe roars over a Russian phantom but wines and dines Ankara’s ruler, the real aggressor. This double standard is not just laughable. It is infuriating.

      Turkey’s violations are relentless, Estonia. Just so that you get a clue of what we are talking about, in 2022, the Hellenic National Defence General Staff logged 11,000+ breaches. One single day saw 78 violations and eight dogfights. In 2019, incidents hit a 30-year high. During 2024, hundreds of UAV and patrol plane incursions targeted Crete. Armed F-16s pierced Rhodes’ skies only a few days ago.

      These are no joyrides, by the way. In 2006, a Greek F-16 actually collided with a Turkish one near Karpathos, killing Captain Thanos Iliakis. In 2018, a Mirage 2000-5 crashed near Skyros, claiming Georgios Baltadoros. Greece’s numbers, alone, since 2000 amounts to 23. Your total air force KIA throughout history, Estonia, is zero.

      The cost is literally sky-high too. Each scramble burns €50,000 to €100,000, according to the Hellenic Air Force (HAF). In 2022, that made €550 million to €1.1 billion. During the last decade alone, €5 to €10 billion have been drained from Greece’s economy. This is what you get (and what you need to give) when facing a real threat on a daily basis.

      You see, Estonia, Greeks would immensely appreciate it if you and Brussels understood that, for instance, while you are fussing about an imaginary invasion of EU territory, a real one is actually there. Turkey’s invasion has seized 37 per cent of an EU member state’s land. UN rulings call it illegal, yet Erdogan’s “peace operation” in Cyprus persists, recently doubling its occupation force.

      Does anyone care? No. Brussels mutters diplomatic cliches and consistently strikes deals with Ankara, repeatedly hosting Erdogan and inviting him into the European defence mechanisms. Europe’s hypocrisy is sad. Estonia’s four violations spark von der Leyen’s X post demanding “action” on Moscow. What about Turkey’s thousands? The question is yet again a rhetorical one. 

      Practically, Russia has never posed a threat to Greece or Cyprus. This made-up fiasco is not ours, and we can not afford to take part in it. 

    7. CypriotGreek on

      It’s silly to frame this as if one side is “not bad” while the other is. Both are bad. The real issue here is the double standards: when it’s Estonia, Europe rallies under the banner of “unity against the Russian threat,” but when it’s Cyprus or Greece facing repeated violations, we’re met with contempt and told to handle it on our own.

    8. arcan1ss on

      I like that previously everyone was complaining about GPS jam in North Europe, but no one gave a fuck about Cyprus

    9. BigChungusBlyat on

      > Imaginary Russian threat

      > Russia has been actively invading and occupying Ukraine for over 3 years and violated EU airspace

      Lol. Lmao, even.

      Not saying he’s wrong about Turkey. He’s right. But invalidating the Russian threat is very stupid.

    10. Tel_Janen on

      Huh? Last time a russian jet entered Turkish airspace it got shot down

      Why are the greeks obsessed with turkey? Don’t think i have ever seen turkey breach nato airspaces in the east

    11. Fabulous-Yellow8331 on

      How many times have you, as a Greek or Greek Cypriot or both, been threatened by Russia? And how many times by turkey? Yes. Now, go ahead and list as many adversaries as you like. For Greece and Cyprus, there is only one real threat/enemy. Yet the EU and the international community keep turning a blind eye, just to avoid upsetting a so-called ally governed by a sultan whose record is built on provocation, criminal records and violations.

      Why aren’t EU members like Greece and Cyprus protected the same way the EU protects members and even **non-members** of the Eastern bloc? Why all the double standards? How long will we have to put up with this hypocrisy?

    12. Winter_Way_8513 on

      Greek dudes chill those arms race isnt for greece it is for Iran and china we are doing 30 ship and new Carrier is it for shallow sea threats? Also doing long range ballistic rockets, drones, tanks, planes, bombs, helicopters domesticly and west is secretly supporting R&D is it overkill for 14m country? I am saying Its all about china maybe a little bit for balkans mediterenian gas Libya and somalia . Barking dog wont bite (Turkish proverb)

    13. HunterM567 on

      Tbf, Turkey isn’t bombing civilians and actually invading Cyprus and Greece. I think he’s just being overdramatic.

    14. greyspurv on

      This does not even make sense tbh. And it shows a lack of understanding of the matter.

    16. SirVandi on

      >Imaginary Russian Threat

      “As Zlenseky said, you have an ocean that protects you.”

    17. Slight-Strategy-5619 on

      He’s absolutely right. How is Turkey in NATO and they stole land??????

    18. eyes-are-fading-blue on

      False equivalency. Greeks have a unique airspace definition where their territorial waters (6nm) and airspace (10nm) do not match. This blurs “who is right” debate between Turkiye and Greece quite a bit. Do not expect a similar reaction from the rest of the world.

    20. Iggyqt on

      All of them Baltic countries are escalating same goes for Poland. They support chat control ignore Cyprus support Isreal but talk a lot of shit about Russia. Change my mind

    21. Calm-Competition-20 on

      Turkey 1) does not have nuclear weapons, 2) is a NATO member, and 3) is not currently engaged in an active war against a NATO ally

      Turkey’s flyovers are just meaningless dramatic posturing, as hot-blooded Turks are bound to do given their culture. It’s not a real threat.

      Russia is a real threat, they are struggling with the Ukraine war now and may really be seeking to expand the conflict to the north.

    22. Entenwuerger on

      I remember when Turkey shot down that Russian Jet couple years ago when they violated Air space and what did russia do in retaliation? Right, dog shit.

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