Russland würde 4 Jahre dauern, um Donbas vollständig zu besetzen, sagt Zelensky
https://kyivindependent.com/russia-would-take-4-years-to-fully-occupy-donbas-zelensky-says/
Russland würde 4 Jahre dauern, um Donbas vollständig zu besetzen, sagt Zelensky
https://kyivindependent.com/russia-would-take-4-years-to-fully-occupy-donbas-zelensky-says/
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This estimate is a stark reminder of the massive scale of the Donbas region. It’s clear that despite all the fighting, this is far from over.
in the last 2 years Russia gain .97% of Ukrainian territory. Edit [Source](https://united24media.com/latest-news/russias-war-gains-amount-to-just-097-of-ukraines-territory-since-2022-osint-finds-10841)
a sacrifice Putin is willing to make
„So you’re saying there is a chance“ Putin
Russia will never win this war. They simply don’t have the resources. Ukraine is huge.
[At The Current Rate, It Would Take Russia Centuries And Tens Of Millions Of Casualties To Capture Ukraine](https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2025/05/01/at-the-current-rate-it-would-take-russia-centuries-and-tens-of-millions-of-casualties-to-capture-ukraine/)
4 years, or 10,000 Flamingo missiles.
Someone should show this to the Americans (Iran, Venezuela, etc.).
British media reported the other day that at the established rate at which Russia has advanced since the start of the war and the attrition they’ve experienced means that to take the area they have set for an end to hostilities would take 4.4 more years and inflict slightly over 1 million more military deaths.
Russia will collapse before then..
Russia can’t even develop the territory firmly under its control, to speak nothing of foreign territory it one sidedly pronounced as Russian.
In reality, it only takes a significant breakthrough in the defensive lines for the front to collapse. Fortunately, that’s not so easy to achieve.
Please don’t give them any ideas. They do not care and will send millions more to die for it. One day it will hurt them one day but that doesn’t change the fact eventually they will control it. Just like someday their economy will crash and burn. Someday
Key theme here is One Day and Someday.
We need to find out how to make it today. Support must keep rolling for Ukraine and harder sanctions must be put on Russia. They must be defeated or they will be back for more down the road.
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
Russia is so broke they can’t even invade Ukraine properly so they resort to terrorist act to wage war. Joke of a country.
Well, that’s not how wars of attrition work. If we had applied this logic to to the war in 1917 to the Allied Powers then it would have taken them another decade to liberate the parts of France and Belgium occupied by the Axis. Instead the entire Axis war effort collapsed late in 1918.
The Russians still think that they can keep the pressure up for longer than the Ukrainians can keep up their resistance. They bank on some sort of tipping point where the Russian advantage in manpower will outweigh the Ukrainian advantage in drone technology and leadership.
There are several scenarios on the table ranging from a collapse of the Russian war machine by mid 2026 to an Ukrainian inability to defend Ukraine East of the Dnipro by 2027.
If we „in the West“ want to tilt the balance then substantial and smart support for Ukraine is more important than ever.
Then hang on till Trump is done and hopefully in 2029 we can help fast track Ukraine into NATO.
Putin want the dumb ass?
Let’s hope Russia is making the same mistakes it made when they invaded Afghanistan. It looks like it so far.
From 3 days to Kyiv, to 4 years for Donbas
These estimations have nothing backing them except from guessing based on how the war went so far…
That third Trump term is pretty critical to sustaining the war then, eh?
„You son of a bitch, I’m in.“
1.7 million Ukrainian soldiers have been killed since February 2022, if the war continues for another 4 years, that means at least another 2 million deaths on the Ukrainian side